2025 - Clarification on Third Party Witnesses and Notaries

Jurat


    From: David xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Subject: Re: Downloading your digital product.

    
      I am listening to “Until Next Time Marcus” [servantking.info] for more clarity on total mind picture.
      There does not seem to be any notaries or notaries who also work privately as presenters/acceptors, so that
      would be a help right now as the notaries here say the mailing is witnessing their own act and have never
      heard of certificate of service—fear things they have not heard of and say it’s illegal in their capacity
      as notary public (but could have a private seal, I would think, not using the notary public capacity).
      Well, as we spoke before, I think they do not really know what they are doing if held to testify in my
      behalf, so do you know of any doing this kind of service?
    

    Thanks,
David

    

    Hi David,

    
      You actually would NOT want to use a notary to be a presenter/witness/custodian-of-records
      on your process, because they are not authorized to put their notary seal to attest to their own
      affirmation/testimony. You will need to use a non-notary who keeps records for a living to do the
      presenting/accepting of responses/custodian of records/certifying copies of your records, and then get those
      Affidavits of Service and Affidavits of Non-Response notarized with a Jurat by the third-party person.
      Then you get the notarized docs authenticated at the county where the notary is commissioned, and apostilled
      at the Department or Secretary of State. Then your documents become self-authenticating under
      Federal Rule 803.
    

    
      If you don’t know what some of these definitions are (apostille, Rule 803, Jurat, etc.),
      look them up on Google; this is not the forum to give full lessons. You also may want to listen to the Portland
      2013 seminar in its entirety to get a full grasp on this. You can get that seminar by subscribing to a paid
      membership with my mentor Brandon’s website:
      MICmastery.net —
      and you’ll have the option of Audio and HD Video to watch at your leisure.
    

    
      The CIC and MIC sites are a great
      compliment or supplement to our Empower package.
      (Complimentary — combining in such a way as to enhance or emphasize the qualities of each
      other; Supplementary — completing or enhancing something.)
    

    
      Yes, I know many who do this service. Again, they should NOT be notaries (or, if they are, they must be
      100% knowledgeable and have another notary witness their act instead of using their own seal).
    

    
      The best person right now whom I work with for these types of mailings is Siobhan.
      You can email her for information on her service, fees, and contact hours at:
      seciresci (at) humanitytranscending.com
      (“(at)” used instead of “@” to prevent spam bots).
    

    
      As you may be aware, getting your Affidavits of Service and
      Affidavits of Non-Response properly documented and authenticated is the key to
      self-authenticating testimony, which often allows you to
      win cases without going to court.
    

    Therefore, I believe this information will be very helpful to you,
    -UCL